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hehe, yeah I think videographers come way down on the list of priorities when organising a comp/jam, when they should be on the same list as DJ's, Judges, and invites if you wanna be serious about your event or want to see the fruits of your labour in putting that event on, rather than some shitty mobile phone footage with sound distortion and shaky hands. I'm not gonna hold a grudge about it. To be honest, my job comes first these days. When I'm in the clip zone I'm working 16 hour days and there's only so many times I can do that each year!!

I think the count is around 60 event highlight clips since I started filming, 90% of which have been in the UK. I've only been invited specifically to film from 3 people in 8 years of filming - Cyanide, Dhalsim and BTC.

One of my long term objectives when I started filming was to get to a level where I would be asked to film a b-boy event abroad and not pay for it. Dont get me wrong, I do it to give back to the scene but you've got to have ambition or objectives in life to feel like you've achieved something. I havent been to a jam in Europe since 2006!! I've been learning filming through travelling around the UK scene, and I love capturing it! And in that time, a few classics have come out, mainly from Scotland.

I hooked up with Strife as we were doing similar things, knew the exposure to the UK scene would massively increase and think the familiarity of my work had bred complacency in the UK, so I dont do as many clips these days. I captured the uk scene relentlessly for a good 5 years and rinsed it. It needs new blood like yourself Chaz.

Anyway, collaborating with Strife was definitely a good move for us and for myself! I'm off to Barcelona in April to film for them, and I'm not paying for it. Feels weird.

One of the very few clips out there I've seen this year which has got a rewind!! That's a sign of getting the ingrediants right to me!! REALLY dope clip. Well done BTC and the man Coylo!

Thanks for clearing that up dyzee!

Just wanted to go over a point Chaz made:

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To counter this argument, when you are asked to judge, whilst I am open to give constructive criticism, if you're judging people you have never seen before (like in a different country perhaps) and you're judging a lot of battles, it can be really difficult to associate the face to the moves if they come upto to you and ask for advice. Because as a judge, you're interested in what they're doing and how well they're doing it, not what they look like. If its people you know or have seen before, its easier to give advice as you've seen where they've come from to where they currently are and what they've improved on/what they're still lacking. So if you get some generic feedback from a foreign judge here, this could be one of the main reasons why!!

If you're judging, you're there to make DECISIONS based on your experience and understanding of the dance. Are judges there as personal advisors to aggrieved b-boys or to point out what you might not know about yourself? Judges arent mind readers, it's give and take, and if you have a decent understanding of what breakin is about and are honest with yourself, shouldnt you already know what your weaknesses are and what you should work on?? If so, b-boys should ask questions more relevant to improving those flaws, rather than the classic 'what do I need to work on?' question. With O.U.R system, it takes the pressure off judges around feedback and judging a little because:

a: You're only judging one perspective of the battle, not the whole battle
b: You have printed scores for feedback, so you can see which aspects you were strong on, and what you needed to be better on to win against that particular crew or opponent. You can still disagree with what is on there, but then at least you have something tangible to work with, instead of not knowing why and how you lost and/or been given some generic palm off from a judge.

For info on O.U.R System (aka Dyzees system) check - http://ourbboys.com/ or the facebook page link on that site for a comprehensive look

From my understanding (and this may have changed), the aim is to make the system accessible to all soon, I agree the implementation is not going to be easy. There would be an acredited trainer whom would be needed to train the judges, so it wouldnt necessarily be a case of flying out official big name judges, it would be a case of getting hold of the official trainer who can instruct on how to implement, administer and judge the system. Once thats done, the system and software is yours to use from then on in. And I believe judges may be categorised (e.g hometown judges, regional judges, national judges, international judges). This would help govern the standard of judges judging against the type of event held. This still poses a lot of questions though.

In order for it to gain momentum and acceptance it has to be visible and accessible. No system is ever perfect but it works, it's definitely needed and is also open to modification as breakin has always evolved. I also really like the idea of the association to help govern it, if we're ever to get true recognition from the mainstream, we have to be able to agree on something and unite around a system, but I can see the association being just as difficult to implement and govern as the system, but at least someone is trying it who has pure intentions, who is putting it out there to get everyones input, and before its too late when these pioneers/o.g's are no longer on this planet.

People have argued about how it will strip the essence of b-boying, will make people dance a certain way, but how much 'essence' do you see in staged competitions? If anything, I hope it will help drive an underground and raw scene to those who dont want or accept it, and give b-boys the option of having an official standard and professional route to work with should they want to go down that road whilst giving each aspect of breakin in staged battles an equal footing.

Thanks all!

I bought a Panasonic GH2 this year, but it's all about the lenses (and some of those are ridiculously expensive!). All DSLR's have their pro's and cons. I went for the GH2 because you can record upto 30 mins for each clip and you can pretty much stick any 3rd party lens on it providing you have the right adaptor. This gives me more options with the glass than other dslr cams. It's taking me a while to get used to it though, so many settings!!! Downside to GH2 is you're limited with recording settings and battery life is only an hour (waaack). The 7D is still a great choice and has better quality images and a larger sensor than the GH2.